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I think they need to be refigured. I missed both the HOA and HAA by one.
I have talked to my Director and will talk to my other one also. I’m pretty sure by now Fritz knows also.
After talking to several shooters and a couple of SCTP shooters parents I have found that they all agree with me completely. The parents even went so far as to say they would be willing to pay more or at least pay a $5 membership fee even if they only shoot this one reg. shoot. But they also said that if there is a increase that it should go to the WTA not the SCTP.
You know me and how our differences go. This isn’t the first time you and I have disagreed about something. I think we are both adult enough (at least you) to get past this. I will be just fine next week. My shooting. That’s another story.
The WTA negotiate with the SCTP for the price. Only after that does the WTA set the price.
I am waiting to hear how much profit they maid. And profit shouldn’t only be based on income and targets, and salaries to the help. What about wear and tear on the bunker, the trap machines, clean up, real estate taxes. You know kind of the way WGC used to charge.
Payment is due the morning of the shoot. At least it was a couple of years ago. I wouldn’t believe the BOD would have changed that. Why would they. Like I said when everyone else shoots they have to pay before on target is thrown.
If the facility can’t survive on one shoot a year how can it survive on two shoots a year at a price that is 20% lower than what the rest of pay. And where would the SCTP go. Iowa, Minnesota, Michigan? Yes they get 3 free campsites it is in the minutes from earlier this year.
And Fritz is incorrect. It does belong to the members of the WTA. Who paid for it? And who is still paying or it with memberships, daily fees, maintenance fee’s, volunteers, donations and so on. Not the SCTP. Not even the volunteer part.
Brad. So the SCTP made how much per shooter. I think it was around $12 per. And for the average non SCTP shooter now add a $3 a day Wta Fee. A 1 dollar maintenance per hundred. A $10 a year membership fee. So now we are up to about $8 or more for the non SCTP shooter. Then we give them 3 FREE camping spots. What else do we need to do for them. Where are they going to shoot when we close the place down? And we have to maintain the whole facility. Not just sign people up pick score sheets and buy some trophies. And we don’t pay our directors. How many hours did the WTA put in. I will guarantee it was more than the SCTP volunteers. And on top of all that when I go to a shoot I have to pay before I shoot my first target. I know the shooters paid a while before the shoot but the WTA has not been paid AGAIN. They got a partial payment but I would be willing to bet they are still owed at least another 20 grand. As long as they have been using OUR facility they have never once even paid in the same week. Sometimes it has been a month. Did the SCTP have the money up front an before the shoot. Yes. Why can’t they pay on the same weekend. They know how many shooters they had. They know how many targets they used for their other things. I’ll bet the SCTP people that get paid get it on time.
- This reply was modified 2 years ago by Don Mittag.
And now if we (the WTA) could make a profit on all those targets that would be a good thing in stead of the SCTP making all the profit.
Or even if the SCTP could bring up 30 people for two days to work around the Homegrounds.
I certainly hope you all find the people that you need. The more bodies you have the easier it makes it for everyone involved. Thank you Dick for stepping up.
Almost looks like one has spots. I saw one at Beaverdam last Sunday during the SE zone. Lots of adults up north but no fawns.
Ha. I started running 2.5 miles back in December of 2016 when I started cardiac rehab after my last by-pass surgery. I’m almost half way through it now.
Thanks Amy. Don’t know where you found the time with a kazilion kids there this weekend.
The building looks really great. The one thing that I took away after seeing it in person was the size. I am so glade they went bigger than what was originally planned. I am also glad that the AC will be in before the state shoot. We a due for a hot one.
In case people didn’t notice it but the things sticking up on the north of the walk way are the light posts bases. The fields right by the new building will have lights.
Great job everyone.
Mike I do believe that only people from the admin. have the ability to post pictures.
Yes the pictures are on my phone since that is what I took them with. So I’ll tell you what. Give me your phone number and I will send them to you. And if you would be so kind to post them for me. I know Amy is busy this week end up at the Homegrounds.
And when it say must stand BEHIND how far is that exactly. 1/1000 of a inch. 6 inches 18 inches? As long as you behind your assigned yardage and not past the next yardage you are doing exactly as the rule states.
Or does Stand on the yardage mean exactly on the yardage? Not behind it only on it. Well I don’t know about you but my feet are to big to stand exactly on the line and not in front of or behind. Unless the line is 6 inches or more wide. But then where is the line. The front of the line, the middle or where?
It comes down to the shooter must be behind the line. If you must be on the line you will have to disqualify my last 50,000 or so handicap targets. Actually all my targets because I don’t shoot any targets standing on the line whether it is 16, handicap or doubles. And I have never heard of anyone ever being penalized for standing behind the line.
It is a sad day. I have shot a lot of targets there. I have shot some really great scores. Not sure how many 100’s in doubles. I know Dave is getting worse. We have been friends for a lot of years. Even well before Darien. We bumped heads in doubles all over the place. Thank to Sheila for keeping it going this long. Hoping the new owners pick up the operations quickly without to many issues.
Right you are Ken. If a shooter wants to shoot at 20.5 that is totally up to them. If they are 20.0 yards and want to shoot from 20.75 have at it. As long as their feet are behind the 20 and either on or either side of the imaginary line through the station.
If I have my bearing right that is the east end of the building???? If it is what are the two little pads one of which Chops is standing on?
Any way you look at it. It looks good.
That would be nice also Ken. I forgot what it cost to be put in their book and or web site. But in this day the first place people go for any kind of search is to Google. So I really think this is the place to go. And it takes more than people searching for the Homegrounds to get it to the first couple of pages. Plus if people knew to search for the Homegrounds they all ready know about it. It needs to come up when people search for camping not by name.