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Mike I don’t think you are correct. Those amounts are the prize money not class purses. I know Dick likes to prorate things. The class purse was $5 so the amounts don’t come out right. It had to be prize money which was $3 per shooter. This has always bothered me and I have brought this up several times. If you buy trophies you don’t buy different prizes for different classes. If you give out shell like in the fall shoot you don’t give out different amounts for different class if there are different amounts of shooters in each class. Did Steve try less than Don? Did he pay less? So why should he get a lesser prize than someone in the other classes? Just figure how many shooters and the amount per shooter then divide by the number of classes. If you want to increase the money amounts reduce the number of classes to four in stead of five. This shoot isn’t that big that you couldn’t have just four.
One other thought. After looking at the shooters calendar ( thanks Carol) it looks like there isn’t a lot of shoots on Memorial day weekend. That used to be a big weekend for shoots. Not so much anymore. Any thoughts? Plus the chances of having good weather are better at the end of the month of May. This is Wisconsin. I know the weather was pretty nice this year but tow years ago there was still snow on the ground up there on the first of May.
After seeing how many shooters there were I take it back about holding a Fri. shoot. It still leaves the problem of no trap help.
I was at the first shoot and maybe the second I can’t remember. But I spent the whole day in the scorers chair with one potty break and no lunch. When we (Melinda and I) looked for something to eat at the end of the day everything was gone. So if anyone had a complaint coming it was us. For the next month all I heard was bitches about the shooters having to wait because of no trap help. Mostly from shooters that wouldn’t even consider helping out. This is why I bring up the problem of no trap help.
- This reply was modified 3 years, 9 months ago by Don Mittag.
Dominic. The WTA has been around for over 100 years. They have had a web site for about 15 years.
Have you been to a zone shoot or the State shoot. It is really hard to believe that you have been to a reg. shoot without knowing that you had a state association. You paid daily fee’s to that same association every time you shot.
Don’t know if he was there.
Do you remember if this was a 3 day shoot last year? Just wondering why? It seems like the Friday is a very slow day. No help either. Why not just have a 2 day? The next shoot is a 4 day. Really questioning the thinking on that one.
Oh and by the way. I do email one of my directors. The other doesn’t have email and I really hate talking to him for many reasons. (Personal) And you can ask most directors I do send out emails to the BOD. Rarely more than one person replies. Most of the time none.
- This reply was modified 3 years, 9 months ago by Don Mittag.
What happened to Brian’s knee. Did it happen at the shoot?
Does anyone know if the email address list is available to the State Associations? The WTA has been talking about making a list and this might be a good place to start.
A big time thank you to ALL that helped. It is just a shame that it is always the same few that do all the volunteering.
Did you hear how the $3 per entry is split or paid out? How about classification? Classes and or yardage groups.
Unbelievable. When Glenn called me last night he told me how much they got done I couldn’t believe it. It looks beautiful. Well done guys.
I asked this question before and got no answer. I really don’t care when it is as I may or may not attend the shoot but with all the negative feed back the board got about changing the date of the fall shoot no one has said why the date was changed yet once more.
I know it h as been reversed but John posted that the BOD decided at the last meeting to do the shuffle. My question is if after reading the minutes of that meeting several times am I missing something? I don’t see anything about it in the minutes. How did you see it John? If it was talked about then why didn’t someone with experience speak up and explain that it didn’t work then and most likely wouldn’t work now. What am I missing?
Dan I guess the minutes were wrong then. That isn’t what the coach said?
Better get used to me being the WTA cop. As a very active member I have every right and a duty to see that things get handled properly.
I know Jim thinks he should have a vote at meetings but if the treasurer and Sect. get to vote they would have to be elected like the rest of the BOD. They cannot be appointed. They have to report to the people that voted them in not to the person that appoints them and the could not be paid. You would have to make a lot of changes to the by law that would have to be voted on by the general membership.
Personally I see no need for these two positions to have a vote.
Dewey this is just a point of order. Dwight is not a voting member of the BOD and therefore cannot make or second a motion.
Does everyone know, and this includes the Nekoosa coach, that there is a video that was make by Adam and I believe it is on youtube.com for the purpose of training makers and loaders? A lot of hours went into making this. I hope it gets used. Fritz knows more about it because he was one of the stars in it.
Question on the PA system. If you only put 8 speakers on the trap line and you find that this isn’t enough can more be added later. Personally I think you could get by with 12. Just leave off the two end speakers. And you may want to add or some how have some temporary speakers in the middle so when the shoot offs are being called and most people are near the center or where the shoot off table is it can be clearly heard.
Did anyone talk to Paul Becker to see if the raffle that you are talking about will interfere with his fund raiser on Friday night. Why would you not. Paul is and has been very helpful in raising funds in the past and I know he was planning on doing the same again this year. Also last I heard he had this years fund raiser money ear marked for the PA system. Not sure about this but you should talk to Paul. Why tick him off too?
Another question, and I really don’t care either way, but why are you changing the date for your fall shoot yet again?
Thinking back to the March meeting Kevin mentioned about Presquad and only 2 banks should be opened up. That is a must. But not for all days. Tuesday yes. Wed open a couple more and Thur. a couple more and so on. You can’t just open 2 towards the end of the week. And also he is correct. You do have a 3 year contract with Michelle. I don’t remember if it was the first year plus 3 or 3 including the first year she did it which was 2014.
What was the discussion about the food vendors. Having a good variety of vendors is a must. One of the biggest complaints at WGC was that lack of variety. One vendor just wouldn’t fill the needs of the shooters.
Food for thought when it comes to setting spending limits make a few limits. One for individual directors, one for the BOD, and one that the BOD needs to go to the general membership.
So Dan and Amy. I guess that Jerry is saying he didn’t say anything like you both said. He needs to apologize to Jeff Mainland not to the public. For what Jeff and the Kolar company have done for this organization they are owed that much. This is not the way it should be handled by Dan making a statement. I know he doesn’t have a computer but he should be making a phone call. I know he has a phone.
Dan if you didn’t say anything to tick off the coach like I said what was he talking about in the minutes? I guess that must have been the second side of the story. So who was telling the truth? It sure looks like someone is guilty.
Jim. I was at the meeting when Theresa resigned. Not sure if it was you or someone else sitting close to you that asked her if she would still be the head cashier and it sure looked like and sounded like she said yes. When did she change her mind. Or was it changed for her.
Amy. Do you think Jerry K’s comment to Jeff Mainland weren’t out of line”?
If ” many people” like the new forum why is there only about 5 or 6 people the use it.
From what I have learned about the meeting it may have been only the BOD that thought it went well.
I understand the coach from the high school that supplies the trap help was there. Why was he there Dan? Was it because you were asked to contact him and address his concerns about the pay amount for this years State shoot? He had asked for a raise and you went to them and told them that the WTA was cutting their pay by 30% and if they didn’t like it you had other organizations wanting the job. And you told him that without having the approval of the BOD to tell them that and without having a back up plan for trap help. Is that correct? What would you have done if he told you to shove it?
Also at the meeting Jerry Kaszynski told Jeff Mainland of Kolar that the Kolar raffle would have went just as well if they had used a Browning. Really? You say that to a gentleman that just DONATED a $19,000 gun. And you didn’t have to do anything. You didn’t have to have tickets printed, didn’t have to sell any tickets or anything and a DIRECTOR has the nerve to say something that stupid.
The treasurer who tells a woman that is excellent at her job as the head cashier and knows everything that is needed to get the cashiering done for the state shoot in a timely manner that she is not needed any longer. He tells Theresa that she could work in the food tent. His daughter is going to be the head cashier. And after telling the BOD that his daughter will not be able to run the food stand that her school ran and shared the profit with the WTA because she got a different job or moved or something. But now she can be the head cashier? My thoughts are the head cashier and the treasurer should not be related. I am not accusing anyone of anything but it just seems like good sense.
I also heard that the BOD decided to do something to tick of Paul Becker. A man that has done a great job raising money for the WTA.
Are you trying to get ride of everyone that has done something good for the organization and have some knowledge about how to run the State shoot? You are doing a good job.
These are a couple of things that I have heard about. I wouldn’t call it a good meeting. I wouldn’t call a meeting good when the harassment of other directors got to the point that you have people resigning.
You have one person with a good amount of experience running a shoot the size of the state shoot and one with a year under his belt. The rest have no experience. The State shoot doesn’t run itself. There are a lot of things that need to get done before the shoot. There are two shoots before the State shoot.
I wish you a lot of good luck. You are going to need it.
- This reply was modified 3 years, 10 months ago by Don Mittag.